and governor mitt romney. one of the big important things are the swing states. that's where you see the candidates going now, ohio, florida, virginia, new hampshire, florida, wisconsin, pennsylvania possibly. so you see a lot about these polls now. there was a big poll that came out yesterday that in ohio, florida and pennsylvania has the president up over mitt romney by as much as ten points. so the question this morning is, how is that data collected and is it done in a fair manner? >> brian: karl rove was on yesterday with bill o'reilly. he's the one who does it. he was the one who sat there when president bush was losing in certain states in florida, he was the one who sat there and said, that's not what i have. he also, same thing with kerry. he said the polling is different. he has an incredible intellect when it comes to this stuff. so we were curious and so was bill o'reilly. listen. >> for a very good reason. let's take florida first. got the white board for you. a little bit of context here. the big